Today if those same Founding Fathers were to secretly gather together to plot a new form of government as the declaration of independence demands they would have been infiltrated and an FBI swat team would have swarmed in.
We’d all be cheering as they were perp walked on FOX NEWS on their way to Gitmo.
You are so right on the Confederacy. They tried it and Lincoln, Grant and Sherman killed hundreds of thousands of true patriots defending their homes and land.
Have never understood this lionization of Abe Lincoln on the Republican side; as you note he denied people the Writ of Habeus Corpus & due process. Then he sends the Federal Army south to shoot up & destroy Southern property in an undeclared war & force the Southern states back into the Union @ point of a bayonet. Have to give him credit though for one thing: The Emancipation Proclamation; this was a political master stroke that halted Britain & France from coming into the war on the side of the South. He totally reframed the argument.
Under The Articles of Confederation states had the right to secede & suddenly - because he is President - they don’t have that right?
He should’ve let the Southern states go. We would have been rid of them.
You'd have to be deranged to this it was worth it, Dutch. If he'd let original 7 states secede, they would probably have been unable to make a go of it, and wound up begging to be let back in. Thanks.
Agreed. In my estimation- gleaned from ongoing studies of The War Between The States (its proper name really. A “civil war” describes two factions fighting a war over who’s going to be the dominant power in a country; that’s not what happened here) the South had one chance to win that war & that was to fight it irregular/guerrilla-style. Death from a thousand cuts. When they elected to fight it European-style, man-to-man in linear formation the South’s lack of numbers vis-a-vis the North in both manpower & production capacity would make itself known fairly quickly, which it did.
The South was done in by the White Man's Sense of Honor. We should have fought the Northern Bastards using the tactics of the Cherokees and the Shawnees. The Cherokees were on our side. As I recall the last Confederate regiment to surrender was an Indian regiment under the command of the Seminole general, John Jumper.
"The South was done in by the White Man's Sense of Honor."
While that may have some merit, it was also done in by other white men's (aka big banker's) sense of greed. The Rothschilds were involved in the instigation of the thing according to Mike King.
they always take things like de opresso liber and twist it and use it for their greed and power mongering. Blood and death mean nothing to them because they will never be at risk.
there is a book that I couldn't finish after reading some of it. It's about the Southern way of conducting the war. Attack always and that meant huge casualties. That sense of elan and we'll win because we're right and honorable and have courage. It was hard to read.
The main contention for the South LEAVING the corrupt union is that they were paying the bulk of the tariffs that funded the feral federal government. The South was prosperous. The War of Northern Aggression reduced most of the southern states to beggar states and that is exactly where this corrupt system intends to keep them. There is no "The South Will Rise Again" as I have heard in many songs. At least not in the aspect of rising up and beating the pants off of the traitors in Washington. No, we have a simpler plan. Let the North spend this corrupt union into bankruptcy and it is working. Checkmate!
Lincoln went to war against the southern states because the secession mean the loss of nearly half of the Federal budget. Like all wars, it came down to money. 700,000+ Americans died to keep Federal coffers full.
Exactly! Thank you for informing Donald Jeffries on this. The North wouldn't let the South secede because they needed them. The South would have been heaven on earth.
For his short comings, he went around his real enemies, the Bank of England with his new form of currency, the Geenbacks. The B of E was going to divide the country and loot it with the French and Spanish. He had to take desperate measures. The actual saviours were the Russian Czar who sent ships to block that plan. The bankers went after him with the Bosheviks and stole his gold.
I have written a lot about the Lincoln assassination, Bard. His printing of Greenbacks contradicted his lifelong devotion to the banks. I still can't figure it out. Regardless, he was taken out by a real "inside job," led by deranged Secretary of War Edwin Stanton. Thanks.
You covered the assassination better than anyone. I find interesting his link to the Czar, who admired the US as a model for Russian industrialization and the building of railroads, which might have connected both countries. This would have been a threat to to the Rothchild bankers. Greenbacks were the foundation for such development. Was Lincoln a Freemason, like all of South Carolina?
He seems to be an outsider to the International Banking Freemasons, who started the Civil War for the Rothchilds with the psyop called "abolition" to divide the country.
That seems to be the take by Eustace Mullins. Frederick Douglas may have been the local Al Sharpton? Slavery was made to seem worse than it was, and that their conditions became horrendous with the Civil War and Reconstruction.
I've mentioned Mathis here several times, Goeff. He once wrote that I literally didn't exist. I tried to get him on my podcast, but he "doesn't do interviews." I imagine he says that the Lincoln assassination wasn't real? If so, that was the premise that Dave McGowan appeared to be working on. Thanks.
If I remember correctly, he does say it was faked. He's definitely full of ideas, but I think he gets a little over the top at times. Anyway, his article is quite interesting.
Here's a link in case anyone's interested. Warning: may contain some potent eye-rolling material!
No, it wasn't worth it. IIRC most if not all original signers of the Constitution reserved the right to secede in their own state constitutions if things didn't work out. Texas had the right to secede on joining the union in 1849.
Ironic you mention him; in discussions with the Director we were thinking of approaching him for a key part in this upcoming film: www.theprussianmovie.com
Ah, but cousin Abe was a hard head and he just could not accept that he would be the president over a much smaller disunited states of America.
Yes, the South had every right to leave the union, they freely joined, so they should have been able to freely leave.
Liberation day from the South is coming soon. This money pyramid scheme will end just as all fake money schemes have ended in the past. Rome shaved the silver and gold off of their coins and eventually made fewer and fewer of them. Opting for cheaper metals just like this empire is doing right now. When the rest of the world tires of the constant warmongering by the US government, then they will stop taking these worthless dollars and when that happens, things will start falling apart quite rapidly. It will not be a slow collapse, it will be sudden and catastrophic.
And I suspect that all of these people buying gold and silver will be caught with their pants down. Thinking that these precious metals will save them. Maybe some will, but most will not. Without food, water, and shelter; those metals will be worthless to most people at the start of this collapse.
"700,000+ dead. Was it worth it?" Sure it was because it was a foreign backed Yankee coup that was utilized as a cover to steal our lands utilizing foreign mercenaries from Eastern Europe and Africa, in order to consolidate power for the North. Our tribes were the last to surrender because we were fighting for our lands. Slavery had nothing to do with it. The "Southern Confederacy" just like the North East Confederacy, Iroquois Confederacy, and Western Confederacy were all American Indian confederacies. History hijacked the perception and made it into a "White thing." It wasn't. The "confederacy was multi racial."
The "Civil War" was staged by the generals from west point to deracinate our people and annex our lands. This I believe because this is what happened. Sherman destroyed our lands. Sherman was a Messianic fanatic. Therein lies the pattern.
Most interesting comment so far. It has long been apparent to me that the Northern banksters, in cahoots with the usual European ones, were the instigators and beneficiaries of the consolidation of power. In fact, that's what the revolution was all about as well as the thing that co-opted it, the constitution.
To call someone an American Christian who is "Biblically literate" while saying that he rarely, if ever, mentions Christ is a nonsequitur. Someone who doesn't testify of Christ is hardly a Christian. Note also that the Old Testament itself is full of foreshadowings and even outright references to Christ. See Isaiah 53, for example.
So Abraham Lincoln didn't believe in Christ and was partial to committing massive war crimes. Interesting. He'd make Bibi proud.
Went to your site and am amazed. Summer is a busy season for me, but I can't wait to read your stuff.
I cannot tell you how much I agree with this sentiment.
"Bankers and their international interests wanted our land. It was the industrial, money generating center of the states united due to its cattle, cotton rice, sugar, textiles, etc.
The bankers and their minions in the states united “government” fomented the violent takeover of our lands. The foreigners came in, put on Yankee blues and commenced to murder our people, under the guise of warfare. It was an overthrow, it was a genocide and it was a pattern.
Without the former confederacy, you're taking a knee to Kamala right now. We would have ended Slavery peacefully. You don't know that?.huh? How could you not know that
Without the former confederacy, you're taking a knee to Kamala right now. We would have ended Slavery peacefully. You don't know that?.huh? How could you not know that
And we would have been rid of you - most importantly. And we would be far better than you today, stronger, multiracial, liberty in tact, massive GDP, pastoral and sustainable - smarter, and much more heavily armed, and far more influential throughout the world.
Yeah should have let us go, because now, we own you
You make absolutely no sense - “multiracial”? That how you define downward holding blacks in slavery? “Massive GDP”? With the Dems loving the practice of shipping jobs over the border & overseas? Don’t see that either. “Heavily armed”? LMAO!!! Now that’s rich - Dems despise the 2nd Amendment & seek every opportunity to abolish it. You “own” us? Trump just won in a landslide & have you seen the approval rate of the Dem party lately?
That kool-aid you’re drinking must be 99% Everclear.
It's hard for me to believe that Dutchman007's flag humping comment garnered 20 likes on this stack. Even the host liked that crap. I broke my rule of not reading comments here and of posting replies. I'm going back to that now. This stack is too heavily infiltrated by trolls like dutchmn007 to suit me.
Ed, what was "flag humping" about his comment? His comment reflects the way I feel about that unnecessary War Between the States. Trolls are everywhere. I have no control over that, but everyone is free to speak their mind here. Thanks.
Much as we’d like to believe it, the common people simply are never going to overthrow their masters, no matter how tyrannical they become, unless they are ordered to. Crumbling, Third World shithole America 2.0 proves that. They’ve demonstrated quite clearly that they have no tipping point.
True.
The germ terror psyop of 2020 disabused me once and for all of the venerable myth that the U.S. is a nation of freedom loving individualists. I travelled to the most rural and supposedly self sufficient and individualistic regions of the country and encountered only more of the same comfort addicted idolaters doing whatever the teevee was telling them. Even though a good many of these types knew the whole thing was a hoax (unlike the urbanites, who were bought in, enthralled and committed to the entire experience) they still obeyed if it meant disobedience would involve any loss of convenience or comfort.
God bless the real “greatest generation.” You tried. You did everything you could. It isn’t your fault that we were too unthinking and gullible to, in Franklin’s words, “keep” our republic.
Wrong diagnosis here, as usual. Poor political outcomes always chalked up to stupidity, lack of intelligence. No. You alluded to it at the start of your article, but the ideals the founders espoused are long gone because long ago this society chose to be Godless. The ideals espoused can only work for God fearing Christians, to be upheld by God fearing Christians. Introduce any other belief system or worldview into the equation to any significant degree and the entire enterprise unravels. Allow the synagogue of Satan to run the show and...well, look around.
And the formation of the Constitution was already the beginning of the end. It was nothing more than another garden variety elitist power grab. But that's a discussion for another comment. For anyone who is up for being disabused of yet another venerable myth, I suggest checking out Legalman's podcast. He does good work in this regard.
I am too old, so I will never know the outcome, but when Hitler started to eliminate the Jewish population in Germany and surrounding countries, the rich Jews had already left for England and the United States. Later they were given land in the Middle East. Now, 80years later, the Middle East is in ruins, England is not important any more and the United States?????On the way out.
So you subscribe to that long ago discredited myth? Why? Have you not learned to question what the "authorities" want you to believe?
Here you go and then you may proceed to check up on the men who wrote them.:
“… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.
If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”
Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Time
Mr. Rothbard was Jewish American and an historian of the very highest caliber.
"War is when the government tells you who the bad guy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself." Benjamin Franklin
When each of us wakes up to greater degree and to more topics, the patriot revolution becomes more powerful. We cannot change the world. We can only change our personal way of thinking.
1 Corinthians 3:6
"I [Paul,] planted, Apollos watered but God gives the increase."
Our job is to plant seeds. We have the easy part. We share what we are learning with others. The more we share, the more we grow personally in understanding. We should not be concerned about the response to the truths we share. After all, there's a genuine 2nd revolution taking place!
“If I thought for a moment this war was about the abolition of slavery, I would have resigned my commission and offered my sword to the enemy”
-Gen HUG “US” Grant
“America has traded one form of slavery for another”
-Lord Acton
Just so we’re clear, Davis had an accord with the British: slavery would be abolished in favor of mechanization and Britain would formally recognize the CSA as a sovereign nation post war.
Lincoln not only allowed the mass theft, rape and murder across Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, he actively got his rocks off hearing stories about it. (I just love his treatise on the superiority of white man to the negro and “mongrel children”)
I have POW release papers for a relative released from a Union camp. And some that were under the command of Brigadier general, Stand Wait, Chief of the Tsalagi (Cherokee to our enemies [historically])
If it seems I went into more detail than needed on 4 July, it was contrived that way for a reason. Not the least of which is because the devolution of our Republic to its present state of an Oligarchy parading as republic started with 16 POST WAR. The atrocities committed against Southern civilians as well as the thousands of slaves who chose to stay and work their former master’s land as sharecroppers, by the occupying Union forces continues through reconstruction. This is EXACTLY why Jim Crow laws were instituted (odious as they were).
Keep in mind, under the Republicans , constitutional amendments were passed without the required 2/3.
That, and as vet of Afghanistan during the sham “War on Terror”, I can tell you definitively, Lincoln’s war crimes were used as legal precedent and justification for rendition, water boarding and other means you (Americans) have no idea about.
We simply will not return our nation back to what our founders envisioned until the people of this nation learn the REAL history, warts and all, and start to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONDITION OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES and begin to DO something about it. Volunteer, start NPOs and use the powerful gift so many died for, sovereign franchise to force municipal, parish and state politicians to do what needs doing.
So I challenge everyone (who is gracious enough to read this, thank you, btw) as you enjoy the day, think of what it is was SUPPOSED to mean and, to quote a great leader, “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”. If you’re not interested, I have one question for you: how’s your current flag waving working out for you?
only thing I liked about Lincoln was that he was a total white supremacist and formed liberia in afreaka and started sending the slaves back there. probably main reason he was shot
Also key for him being taken out I think was his refusal to borrow money at 25% from the jew bankers hence why he formed his own greenbacks currency and printed them interest free to finance the war.
yes you are right about the money another reason he got shot also they didnt want to lose the cheap labor cause freed slaves would still be cheap labor
True. A eugenicist for sure. Perhaps I’m a naive optimist, but I like to think maybe he began to see the error of his ways. I think his own people did him in.
Your book Crimes and Coverups is required reading.
Also reading Eustace Mullins take on the Civil War being a plan by the Rothchild Bankers to split the country was head turning for me.
The role of the Bank of England in history is hidden in American politics.
The American Colonies had the highest literacy rate due to the number of Thomas Paine's Common Sense sold.
Recent history has made us more aware of the role of the bankers.
"If a government wants to maintain vital services, social order, and ultimately its own power, it will do what The Network wants (regardless of the will of the people). If the government refuses, the flow of money will be cut and won't be restored until 'more acceptable leaders' assume control."
Don, you hit the nail right on the head. I have read in places that the original line was life, liberty, and property-not pursuit of happiness. The bankers do not want anyone except them and their ilk to have property that they own. Thus the property tax which in places like Michigan is onerous. More and more businesses are using fees and technicalities to rip off people for more and more each year. People now have no idea what has been lost. Lincoln got that started and the others have followed suit in their own way.
I always tell "freedom" loving Americans to test their freedom and see how long they can go without paying their property taxes. Unfortunately, most stupid Americans don't pay their property taxes. Their banks do as a part of their escrow accounts. I paid off my mortgage five years ago and it became suddenly clear to me that if I don't pay my property taxes, the government will put a lien on my property and could sell the lien to an investor who could then foreclose on property I took 20 years to pay off free and clear.
We can never own anything in America. The government owns it all. We just rentin it.
That ain't freedom. That ain't what was envisioned by our noble founders. Not by a long shot.
Most Americans don't give a shit. As long as they got their booze, their drugs, their porn, their tee vee and their orgasms, they are content.
As a Master of Hidden History, I'm sure you're familiar with the brutal notion that the constitution was basically a coup d'tat. I'm not much of a scholar, historically or any other way, except possibly in the utter mendacity of organized medicine. So I must defer to the likes of the great Murray Rothbard and Albert Jay Nock, who I referenced in this piece on the matter:
"W's piece of paper" it turns out, WAS written for the people ... a very select few of them, unfortunately for the nation's ultimate posterity. Should anyone not wish to wade through those ramblings of mine above, here is the source essay from Nock, who describes the treachery in detail:
I could not add a single original thought to this astounding thread.I am horrified as to how under/ miseducated I am on this topic( among millions more). Aside from grammatical errors in the comments, the poster DJ ( and seemingly the rest of you )are light years ahead of me, and sadly most of society.
I am humbled here. - Ignorant ( yes) but grateful to observe informed debate.
Thanks Donald for defending the mind of Thomas Jefferson. Our best president. If he went to Monticello today, they would accuse him of being a miscegenistic raper. This is what happens when the government is controlled by anti American elements.
That's literally true, Skander. I wrote about the defamation of Jefferson and the Sally Hemings psyop in "Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics: 1776-1963." Monticello is now run by those who believe the fable, and think Jefferson was a "racist." Thanks.
Something I’ve been saying for several years- Whether we like to admit it or not, the Constitution failed.
In the end, it didn’t preserve our Rights, limit the power of the government, or guarantee our sovereignty.
Yes, because too many men failed to honor their oath to it, but that just proves that enough dishonest men could corrupt the entire dream of this nation!
Despite the design brilliance, our Constitution and system of government, failed its charter.
Great article, have not delved American Revolution for two decades, too depressing for myself. I estimate that less than 50%, probably only 30% of American citizens have the reading skill level to read it, another reason we are ruined. No mention of masons or the anti mason era ( no offense) - Washington wears the apron, the upper degrees are largely responsible for our current "situation" I wondered for years who judges the judges - In my area there was a retired federal Mason judge that was busted for traveling for sex with young impoverished, 3rd worlders ( likely Children ). Said married for decades judge used to visit a local pub-bar with 2 sheriff body guards from the next county and a couple of whores ( he was working part time as a judge also )
I learned about Lincoln's tyranny at mid age, but I do like his speech at Niagara Falls because he mentions the Giants that used to inhabit America. My grandmother used to play Dixie on 78 rpm vinyl, born in Charlotte NC. She told me how her wealthy NY farmer in laws denied her milk, yet they were dairy farmers. I have an old Lincoln book by Lucy Foster Madison she gifted her firstborn son. I always thought that was an odd gift. I prefer the south I visited in the early 1970's versus today, ruined by wealthy types seeking year round sunshine that ruined it for everyone else.
This nation was great when it was mainly farmers and people that worked the land and were literate, been downhill ever since. First they split the Republic, now is fractured into a thousand lights of darkness and the 3 branches of oppressive government are completely and utterly corrupt, they have all betrayed US.
I appreciate you sharing that, Nita. I did talk about the masons, and specifically John Quincy Adams's battle against them, in "Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics: 1776-1963." Thanks.
I agree that Andrew Jackson was a great President and a tough bastard but for me Thomas Stonewall Jackson was one of the South’s greatest generals who earned the nickname Stonewall at 1st Manasses. All the best.
Thanks Don topically a bullseye. I’m reading “The Rape of the Mind” which was written in the ‘50s and pinpoints how we’ve become so pliable, unthinking and immoral. “ he who dictates and formulates the words and phrases we use, he who is master of the press and radio, is master of the mind.” We can toss in TV, movies, music, social media where everyone is subliminally taught to drool when Pavlov's dinner bell is struck.
It’s not our fault only if we submit to the controllers dinner bell chimes which will ultimately lead to CBDCs, 5 minute cities, AI robotics and more medical tyranny. The Constitution is the lifeline these great men gave us. Like the Gospel we need to receive it which means we have to do some basic learning. If we organize locally and stop watching the latest hocus pocus with Orange man and his circus we can restore the republic.
Were the framers perfect? All men are fallible. As you point out they were 1%ers and died penniless. The Constitution is a masterpiece. The reason it’s without cultural relevance or popularity is it’s been intentionally subjugated. Did you know that POTUS took it off the WH website on Inauguration Day? The enemy knows it’s our firewall between another monarchy and liberty.
My 2 cents on the framers et al. Madison and Jefferson were the stars. Jefferson had the banking atrocity pegged and Hamilton was the nefarious renegade behind it. Hamilton captured Marshall to lead us into judicial tyranny leading with Marbury. The Articles had many problems not the least of which required all states to support amendments. Madison’s notes on the Constitutional Convention are revealing. Lincoln was a racist tyrant who broke every constitutional rule in the book. Lionizing him with statues tells us the extent we’ve been lied to about everything.
Checkout the Republic Review process if so inclined. 3-5% were engaged in 1776. We can restore the republic when people break free from their critical thinking shackles. Maybe it just has to get worse heaven forbid. Stand strong, love Christ and learn what we need to know. God bless.
this is a Little Season spiritual battle between the Libertines and their Lucifer who is close to be removed and cast in to the lake of fire each day Glory to Father we get closer...Please research what is called the Little Season...Jason Jack on youtube has an lot of biblical videos to back up what we know we are in the Little season peace...
Today if those same Founding Fathers were to secretly gather together to plot a new form of government as the declaration of independence demands they would have been infiltrated and an FBI swat team would have swarmed in.
We’d all be cheering as they were perp walked on FOX NEWS on their way to Gitmo.
You are so right on the Confederacy. They tried it and Lincoln, Grant and Sherman killed hundreds of thousands of true patriots defending their homes and land.
What happened to us for Gods sake?
Can anyone think in this nation?
Exactly, Delta. Thanks!
"Can anyone think in this nation?"
Evidently not near enough.
A common feature of declining civilizations is the loss of rationality. Expect it to get worse.
Have never understood this lionization of Abe Lincoln on the Republican side; as you note he denied people the Writ of Habeus Corpus & due process. Then he sends the Federal Army south to shoot up & destroy Southern property in an undeclared war & force the Southern states back into the Union @ point of a bayonet. Have to give him credit though for one thing: The Emancipation Proclamation; this was a political master stroke that halted Britain & France from coming into the war on the side of the South. He totally reframed the argument.
Under The Articles of Confederation states had the right to secede & suddenly - because he is President - they don’t have that right?
He should’ve let the Southern states go. We would have been rid of them.
700,000+ dead. Was it worth it?
You'd have to be deranged to this it was worth it, Dutch. If he'd let original 7 states secede, they would probably have been unable to make a go of it, and wound up begging to be let back in. Thanks.
Agreed. In my estimation- gleaned from ongoing studies of The War Between The States (its proper name really. A “civil war” describes two factions fighting a war over who’s going to be the dominant power in a country; that’s not what happened here) the South had one chance to win that war & that was to fight it irregular/guerrilla-style. Death from a thousand cuts. When they elected to fight it European-style, man-to-man in linear formation the South’s lack of numbers vis-a-vis the North in both manpower & production capacity would make itself known fairly quickly, which it did.
The South was done in by the White Man's Sense of Honor. We should have fought the Northern Bastards using the tactics of the Cherokees and the Shawnees. The Cherokees were on our side. As I recall the last Confederate regiment to surrender was an Indian regiment under the command of the Seminole general, John Jumper.
"The South was done in by the White Man's Sense of Honor."
While that may have some merit, it was also done in by other white men's (aka big banker's) sense of greed. The Rothschilds were involved in the instigation of the thing according to Mike King.
https://realnewsandhistory.com/anyt-07-08-24/
they always take things like de opresso liber and twist it and use it for their greed and power mongering. Blood and death mean nothing to them because they will never be at risk.
'Zackly.
I thought the last to surrender was Stand Watie, I'll have to look that up. Thanks.
You are right!
I never surrendered.
Somewhere in here is where we all celebrate Juneteenth!!! Right???
it is irritating to see the war of Southern secession called a civil war. As you say it wasn't a civil war at all.
there is a book that I couldn't finish after reading some of it. It's about the Southern way of conducting the war. Attack always and that meant huge casualties. That sense of elan and we'll win because we're right and honorable and have courage. It was hard to read.
"Begging to be let back in".
That's funny.
The main contention for the South LEAVING the corrupt union is that they were paying the bulk of the tariffs that funded the feral federal government. The South was prosperous. The War of Northern Aggression reduced most of the southern states to beggar states and that is exactly where this corrupt system intends to keep them. There is no "The South Will Rise Again" as I have heard in many songs. At least not in the aspect of rising up and beating the pants off of the traitors in Washington. No, we have a simpler plan. Let the North spend this corrupt union into bankruptcy and it is working. Checkmate!
Lincoln went to war against the southern states because the secession mean the loss of nearly half of the Federal budget. Like all wars, it came down to money. 700,000+ Americans died to keep Federal coffers full.
Exactly! Thank you for informing Donald Jeffries on this. The North wouldn't let the South secede because they needed them. The South would have been heaven on earth.
Lincoln did not care about the slaves. They never even became an issue until two years into the war.
the emancipation proclamation only freed the slaves in the Southern states.
and gave access to the idea of the enslavement of all.
🎯🎯🎯
For his short comings, he went around his real enemies, the Bank of England with his new form of currency, the Geenbacks. The B of E was going to divide the country and loot it with the French and Spanish. He had to take desperate measures. The actual saviours were the Russian Czar who sent ships to block that plan. The bankers went after him with the Bosheviks and stole his gold.
I have written a lot about the Lincoln assassination, Bard. His printing of Greenbacks contradicted his lifelong devotion to the banks. I still can't figure it out. Regardless, he was taken out by a real "inside job," led by deranged Secretary of War Edwin Stanton. Thanks.
You covered the assassination better than anyone. I find interesting his link to the Czar, who admired the US as a model for Russian industrialization and the building of railroads, which might have connected both countries. This would have been a threat to to the Rothchild bankers. Greenbacks were the foundation for such development. Was Lincoln a Freemason, like all of South Carolina?
I have never seen a source for Lincoln being a Freemason, Bard. Thanks.
He seems to be an outsider to the International Banking Freemasons, who started the Civil War for the Rothchilds with the psyop called "abolition" to divide the country.
That seems to be the take by Eustace Mullins. Frederick Douglas may have been the local Al Sharpton? Slavery was made to seem worse than it was, and that their conditions became horrendous with the Civil War and Reconstruction.
Have you read Miles Mathis' version of the assassination? Apparently, he was related to the actor, (Booth), who apparently assassinated him.
I've mentioned Mathis here several times, Goeff. He once wrote that I literally didn't exist. I tried to get him on my podcast, but he "doesn't do interviews." I imagine he says that the Lincoln assassination wasn't real? If so, that was the premise that Dave McGowan appeared to be working on. Thanks.
If I remember correctly, he does say it was faked. He's definitely full of ideas, but I think he gets a little over the top at times. Anyway, his article is quite interesting.
Here's a link in case anyone's interested. Warning: may contain some potent eye-rolling material!
He's definitely interested, Goeff. But he's very full of himself. Thanks.
Maybe Mel Gibson could be convinced to do the movie. I cried when I read about Thomas Payne funeral !
Mel Gibson made the movie The Patriot it was excellent. Loosely based on Francis Marion Swamp Fox.
Yes but I’m talking about Mason and Payne and the others
No, it wasn't worth it. IIRC most if not all original signers of the Constitution reserved the right to secede in their own state constitutions if things didn't work out. Texas had the right to secede on joining the union in 1849.
Ironic you mention him; in discussions with the Director we were thinking of approaching him for a key part in this upcoming film: www.theprussianmovie.com
Ah, but cousin Abe was a hard head and he just could not accept that he would be the president over a much smaller disunited states of America.
Yes, the South had every right to leave the union, they freely joined, so they should have been able to freely leave.
Liberation day from the South is coming soon. This money pyramid scheme will end just as all fake money schemes have ended in the past. Rome shaved the silver and gold off of their coins and eventually made fewer and fewer of them. Opting for cheaper metals just like this empire is doing right now. When the rest of the world tires of the constant warmongering by the US government, then they will stop taking these worthless dollars and when that happens, things will start falling apart quite rapidly. It will not be a slow collapse, it will be sudden and catastrophic.
And I suspect that all of these people buying gold and silver will be caught with their pants down. Thinking that these precious metals will save them. Maybe some will, but most will not. Without food, water, and shelter; those metals will be worthless to most people at the start of this collapse.
If the whole thing implodes, would seem ammo, liquor, & cigarettes would be more of value in a Mad Max-type of situation than silver or gold.
Porn and drugs as well.
It was worth it to the bankers who fomented it and profited from the war. For the rest of us, not so much.
Mike King writes some good stuff on the origins and politics of the war.
"700,000+ dead. Was it worth it?" Sure it was because it was a foreign backed Yankee coup that was utilized as a cover to steal our lands utilizing foreign mercenaries from Eastern Europe and Africa, in order to consolidate power for the North. Our tribes were the last to surrender because we were fighting for our lands. Slavery had nothing to do with it. The "Southern Confederacy" just like the North East Confederacy, Iroquois Confederacy, and Western Confederacy were all American Indian confederacies. History hijacked the perception and made it into a "White thing." It wasn't. The "confederacy was multi racial."
https://jeanbaptisteguillory.substack.com/p/past-foreign-invasion
https://jeanbaptisteguillory.substack.com/p/black-confederates
https://jeanbaptisteguillory.substack.com/p/9-confederate-stars
The "Civil War" was staged by the generals from west point to deracinate our people and annex our lands. This I believe because this is what happened. Sherman destroyed our lands. Sherman was a Messianic fanatic. Therein lies the pattern.
https://jeanbaptisteguillory.substack.com/p/the-devils-punch-bowl-ii
Most interesting comment so far. It has long been apparent to me that the Northern banksters, in cahoots with the usual European ones, were the instigators and beneficiaries of the consolidation of power. In fact, that's what the revolution was all about as well as the thing that co-opted it, the constitution.
I must check out the links when I have more time.
Thanks for reading.
https://aish.com/abraham-lincoln-and-the-jews-10-fascinating-facts/
Abraham Lincoln and the Jews: 10 Fascinating Facts
To call someone an American Christian who is "Biblically literate" while saying that he rarely, if ever, mentions Christ is a nonsequitur. Someone who doesn't testify of Christ is hardly a Christian. Note also that the Old Testament itself is full of foreshadowings and even outright references to Christ. See Isaiah 53, for example.
So Abraham Lincoln didn't believe in Christ and was partial to committing massive war crimes. Interesting. He'd make Bibi proud.
Went to your site and am amazed. Summer is a busy season for me, but I can't wait to read your stuff.
I cannot tell you how much I agree with this sentiment.
"Bankers and their international interests wanted our land. It was the industrial, money generating center of the states united due to its cattle, cotton rice, sugar, textiles, etc.
The bankers and their minions in the states united “government” fomented the violent takeover of our lands. The foreigners came in, put on Yankee blues and commenced to murder our people, under the guise of warfare. It was an overthrow, it was a genocide and it was a pattern.
Without the former confederacy, you're taking a knee to Kamala right now. We would have ended Slavery peacefully. You don't know that?.huh? How could you not know that
I never said the war was justified, actually the opposite (see above).
Without the former confederacy, you're taking a knee to Kamala right now. We would have ended Slavery peacefully. You don't know that?.huh? How could you not know that
And we would have been rid of you - most importantly. And we would be far better than you today, stronger, multiracial, liberty in tact, massive GDP, pastoral and sustainable - smarter, and much more heavily armed, and far more influential throughout the world.
Yeah should have let us go, because now, we own you
You make absolutely no sense - “multiracial”? That how you define downward holding blacks in slavery? “Massive GDP”? With the Dems loving the practice of shipping jobs over the border & overseas? Don’t see that either. “Heavily armed”? LMAO!!! Now that’s rich - Dems despise the 2nd Amendment & seek every opportunity to abolish it. You “own” us? Trump just won in a landslide & have you seen the approval rate of the Dem party lately?
That kool-aid you’re drinking must be 99% Everclear.
It's hard for me to believe that Dutchman007's flag humping comment garnered 20 likes on this stack. Even the host liked that crap. I broke my rule of not reading comments here and of posting replies. I'm going back to that now. This stack is too heavily infiltrated by trolls like dutchmn007 to suit me.
Ed, what was "flag humping" about his comment? His comment reflects the way I feel about that unnecessary War Between the States. Trolls are everywhere. I have no control over that, but everyone is free to speak their mind here. Thanks.
Yeah - whose flag am I “humping”?
Makes no sense.
I'd like to know why the "flag humping" comment as well. I didn't see where that might even be remotely true.
Flag humping? I didn't detect that in Dutchmn007's comment. I thought it was an excellent comment.
Much as we’d like to believe it, the common people simply are never going to overthrow their masters, no matter how tyrannical they become, unless they are ordered to. Crumbling, Third World shithole America 2.0 proves that. They’ve demonstrated quite clearly that they have no tipping point.
True.
The germ terror psyop of 2020 disabused me once and for all of the venerable myth that the U.S. is a nation of freedom loving individualists. I travelled to the most rural and supposedly self sufficient and individualistic regions of the country and encountered only more of the same comfort addicted idolaters doing whatever the teevee was telling them. Even though a good many of these types knew the whole thing was a hoax (unlike the urbanites, who were bought in, enthralled and committed to the entire experience) they still obeyed if it meant disobedience would involve any loss of convenience or comfort.
God bless the real “greatest generation.” You tried. You did everything you could. It isn’t your fault that we were too unthinking and gullible to, in Franklin’s words, “keep” our republic.
Wrong diagnosis here, as usual. Poor political outcomes always chalked up to stupidity, lack of intelligence. No. You alluded to it at the start of your article, but the ideals the founders espoused are long gone because long ago this society chose to be Godless. The ideals espoused can only work for God fearing Christians, to be upheld by God fearing Christians. Introduce any other belief system or worldview into the equation to any significant degree and the entire enterprise unravels. Allow the synagogue of Satan to run the show and...well, look around.
And the formation of the Constitution was already the beginning of the end. It was nothing more than another garden variety elitist power grab. But that's a discussion for another comment. For anyone who is up for being disabused of yet another venerable myth, I suggest checking out Legalman's podcast. He does good work in this regard.
I understand what you're saying, Jody. Legalman and I had a great discussion on my podcast a while back. Thanks.
Yes. I listened.
Yes. Thank you Donald, for alerting me to Legalman. His podcast is great.
I am too old, so I will never know the outcome, but when Hitler started to eliminate the Jewish population in Germany and surrounding countries, the rich Jews had already left for England and the United States. Later they were given land in the Middle East. Now, 80years later, the Middle East is in ruins, England is not important any more and the United States?????On the way out.
amazing you can be so old and not really learned nothing proved by your belief in the fairy tale of the hollowcaust
So you subscribe to that long ago discredited myth? Why? Have you not learned to question what the "authorities" want you to believe?
Here you go and then you may proceed to check up on the men who wrote them.:
“… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.
If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”
Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Time
Mr. Rothbard was Jewish American and an historian of the very highest caliber.
http://mises.org/daily/2592
I suppose it began with a sense… that what the average child is taught about major historical events is a pack of lies.
-Gerard Menuchin, Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil p12 (2016)
He also wrote, “Sobriety rejects sensationalism.”
https://www.wvwnews.net/news/2015/12/25/book-tell-the-truth-and-shame-the-devil-by-gerard-menuhin/
And then there's this.:
“The History of our Revolution will be one continued lie from one end to the other.”
—John Adams Letter to Benjamin Rush, 4 April 1790*
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/06-20-02-0181#:~:text=From%20John%20Adams%20to%20Benjamin%20Rush%2C%204%20April,We%20must%20candidly%20confess%2C%20more%20of%20real%20Politicians.%E2%80%94
"War is when the government tells you who the bad guy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself." Benjamin Franklin
When each of us wakes up to greater degree and to more topics, the patriot revolution becomes more powerful. We cannot change the world. We can only change our personal way of thinking.
1 Corinthians 3:6
"I [Paul,] planted, Apollos watered but God gives the increase."
Our job is to plant seeds. We have the easy part. We share what we are learning with others. The more we share, the more we grow personally in understanding. We should not be concerned about the response to the truths we share. After all, there's a genuine 2nd revolution taking place!
Good point, Stan. Thanks!
“If I thought for a moment this war was about the abolition of slavery, I would have resigned my commission and offered my sword to the enemy”
-Gen HUG “US” Grant
“America has traded one form of slavery for another”
-Lord Acton
Just so we’re clear, Davis had an accord with the British: slavery would be abolished in favor of mechanization and Britain would formally recognize the CSA as a sovereign nation post war.
Lincoln not only allowed the mass theft, rape and murder across Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, he actively got his rocks off hearing stories about it. (I just love his treatise on the superiority of white man to the negro and “mongrel children”)
I have POW release papers for a relative released from a Union camp. And some that were under the command of Brigadier general, Stand Wait, Chief of the Tsalagi (Cherokee to our enemies [historically])
If it seems I went into more detail than needed on 4 July, it was contrived that way for a reason. Not the least of which is because the devolution of our Republic to its present state of an Oligarchy parading as republic started with 16 POST WAR. The atrocities committed against Southern civilians as well as the thousands of slaves who chose to stay and work their former master’s land as sharecroppers, by the occupying Union forces continues through reconstruction. This is EXACTLY why Jim Crow laws were instituted (odious as they were).
Keep in mind, under the Republicans , constitutional amendments were passed without the required 2/3.
That, and as vet of Afghanistan during the sham “War on Terror”, I can tell you definitively, Lincoln’s war crimes were used as legal precedent and justification for rendition, water boarding and other means you (Americans) have no idea about.
We simply will not return our nation back to what our founders envisioned until the people of this nation learn the REAL history, warts and all, and start to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CONDITION OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES and begin to DO something about it. Volunteer, start NPOs and use the powerful gift so many died for, sovereign franchise to force municipal, parish and state politicians to do what needs doing.
So I challenge everyone (who is gracious enough to read this, thank you, btw) as you enjoy the day, think of what it is was SUPPOSED to mean and, to quote a great leader, “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”. If you’re not interested, I have one question for you: how’s your current flag waving working out for you?
I appreciate that, Chad. I covered the horrors of Reconstruction in depth in "Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics: 1776-1963." Thanks.
On point Chad. Act locally.
Participation in federal kayfabe humiliation ritual politics does only two things, by design.
It weakens the participant and strengthens the enemy.
only thing I liked about Lincoln was that he was a total white supremacist and formed liberia in afreaka and started sending the slaves back there. probably main reason he was shot
Also key for him being taken out I think was his refusal to borrow money at 25% from the jew bankers hence why he formed his own greenbacks currency and printed them interest free to finance the war.
yes you are right about the money another reason he got shot also they didnt want to lose the cheap labor cause freed slaves would still be cheap labor
True. A eugenicist for sure. Perhaps I’m a naive optimist, but I like to think maybe he began to see the error of his ways. I think his own people did him in.
Donald
Your book Crimes and Coverups is required reading.
Also reading Eustace Mullins take on the Civil War being a plan by the Rothchild Bankers to split the country was head turning for me.
The role of the Bank of England in history is hidden in American politics.
The American Colonies had the highest literacy rate due to the number of Thomas Paine's Common Sense sold.
Recent history has made us more aware of the role of the bankers.
"If a government wants to maintain vital services, social order, and ultimately its own power, it will do what The Network wants (regardless of the will of the people). If the government refuses, the flow of money will be cut and won't be restored until 'more acceptable leaders' assume control."
Joseph Plummer
Tragedy and Hope 101
I appreciate that, Bard. Thanks!
Don, you hit the nail right on the head. I have read in places that the original line was life, liberty, and property-not pursuit of happiness. The bankers do not want anyone except them and their ilk to have property that they own. Thus the property tax which in places like Michigan is onerous. More and more businesses are using fees and technicalities to rip off people for more and more each year. People now have no idea what has been lost. Lincoln got that started and the others have followed suit in their own way.
I always tell "freedom" loving Americans to test their freedom and see how long they can go without paying their property taxes. Unfortunately, most stupid Americans don't pay their property taxes. Their banks do as a part of their escrow accounts. I paid off my mortgage five years ago and it became suddenly clear to me that if I don't pay my property taxes, the government will put a lien on my property and could sell the lien to an investor who could then foreclose on property I took 20 years to pay off free and clear.
We can never own anything in America. The government owns it all. We just rentin it.
That ain't freedom. That ain't what was envisioned by our noble founders. Not by a long shot.
Most Americans don't give a shit. As long as they got their booze, their drugs, their porn, their tee vee and their orgasms, they are content.
Thanks, Doug!
Slavery, as policy, would have died out by 1870.
As a Master of Hidden History, I'm sure you're familiar with the brutal notion that the constitution was basically a coup d'tat. I'm not much of a scholar, historically or any other way, except possibly in the utter mendacity of organized medicine. So I must defer to the likes of the great Murray Rothbard and Albert Jay Nock, who I referenced in this piece on the matter:
https://open.substack.com/pub/doc115/p/not-your-average-everyday-coup-d?r=18tk5o&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
"W's piece of paper" it turns out, WAS written for the people ... a very select few of them, unfortunately for the nation's ultimate posterity. Should anyone not wish to wade through those ramblings of mine above, here is the source essay from Nock, who describes the treachery in detail:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/08/albert-jay-nock/the-founding-fathers-coup-detat/
Thanks for yet another historical picture painted in such elegant fashion as only you can do, DJ.
Best of luck friend,
~~ Doc
I could not add a single original thought to this astounding thread.I am horrified as to how under/ miseducated I am on this topic( among millions more). Aside from grammatical errors in the comments, the poster DJ ( and seemingly the rest of you )are light years ahead of me, and sadly most of society.
I am humbled here. - Ignorant ( yes) but grateful to observe informed debate.
I really appreciate that, Doc. Thanks!
Thanks Donald for defending the mind of Thomas Jefferson. Our best president. If he went to Monticello today, they would accuse him of being a miscegenistic raper. This is what happens when the government is controlled by anti American elements.
That's literally true, Skander. I wrote about the defamation of Jefferson and the Sally Hemings psyop in "Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics: 1776-1963." Monticello is now run by those who believe the fable, and think Jefferson was a "racist." Thanks.
Another excellent piece!
Something I’ve been saying for several years- Whether we like to admit it or not, the Constitution failed.
In the end, it didn’t preserve our Rights, limit the power of the government, or guarantee our sovereignty.
Yes, because too many men failed to honor their oath to it, but that just proves that enough dishonest men could corrupt the entire dream of this nation!
Despite the design brilliance, our Constitution and system of government, failed its charter.
And we suffer the consequences, daily.
Thanks, Myriad!
Great article, have not delved American Revolution for two decades, too depressing for myself. I estimate that less than 50%, probably only 30% of American citizens have the reading skill level to read it, another reason we are ruined. No mention of masons or the anti mason era ( no offense) - Washington wears the apron, the upper degrees are largely responsible for our current "situation" I wondered for years who judges the judges - In my area there was a retired federal Mason judge that was busted for traveling for sex with young impoverished, 3rd worlders ( likely Children ). Said married for decades judge used to visit a local pub-bar with 2 sheriff body guards from the next county and a couple of whores ( he was working part time as a judge also )
I learned about Lincoln's tyranny at mid age, but I do like his speech at Niagara Falls because he mentions the Giants that used to inhabit America. My grandmother used to play Dixie on 78 rpm vinyl, born in Charlotte NC. She told me how her wealthy NY farmer in laws denied her milk, yet they were dairy farmers. I have an old Lincoln book by Lucy Foster Madison she gifted her firstborn son. I always thought that was an odd gift. I prefer the south I visited in the early 1970's versus today, ruined by wealthy types seeking year round sunshine that ruined it for everyone else.
This nation was great when it was mainly farmers and people that worked the land and were literate, been downhill ever since. First they split the Republic, now is fractured into a thousand lights of darkness and the 3 branches of oppressive government are completely and utterly corrupt, they have all betrayed US.
I appreciate you sharing that, Nita. I did talk about the masons, and specifically John Quincy Adams's battle against them, in "Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics: 1776-1963." Thanks.
Lincoln mentioned the Giants. Now that got my attention.
I agree that Andrew Jackson was a great President and a tough bastard but for me Thomas Stonewall Jackson was one of the South’s greatest generals who earned the nickname Stonewall at 1st Manasses. All the best.
I'm no military expert by any means, Delta. But I think it's clear that Stonewall Jackson was in a class of his own as a field general. Thanks.
Thanks Don topically a bullseye. I’m reading “The Rape of the Mind” which was written in the ‘50s and pinpoints how we’ve become so pliable, unthinking and immoral. “ he who dictates and formulates the words and phrases we use, he who is master of the press and radio, is master of the mind.” We can toss in TV, movies, music, social media where everyone is subliminally taught to drool when Pavlov's dinner bell is struck.
It’s not our fault only if we submit to the controllers dinner bell chimes which will ultimately lead to CBDCs, 5 minute cities, AI robotics and more medical tyranny. The Constitution is the lifeline these great men gave us. Like the Gospel we need to receive it which means we have to do some basic learning. If we organize locally and stop watching the latest hocus pocus with Orange man and his circus we can restore the republic.
Were the framers perfect? All men are fallible. As you point out they were 1%ers and died penniless. The Constitution is a masterpiece. The reason it’s without cultural relevance or popularity is it’s been intentionally subjugated. Did you know that POTUS took it off the WH website on Inauguration Day? The enemy knows it’s our firewall between another monarchy and liberty.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/our-government/the-constitution/
My 2 cents on the framers et al. Madison and Jefferson were the stars. Jefferson had the banking atrocity pegged and Hamilton was the nefarious renegade behind it. Hamilton captured Marshall to lead us into judicial tyranny leading with Marbury. The Articles had many problems not the least of which required all states to support amendments. Madison’s notes on the Constitutional Convention are revealing. Lincoln was a racist tyrant who broke every constitutional rule in the book. Lionizing him with statues tells us the extent we’ve been lied to about everything.
Checkout the Republic Review process if so inclined. 3-5% were engaged in 1776. We can restore the republic when people break free from their critical thinking shackles. Maybe it just has to get worse heaven forbid. Stand strong, love Christ and learn what we need to know. God bless.
Www.Loudoun-Libertyb.org
Well said, Henry. Thanks!
"...the common people simply are never going to overthrow their masters, no matter how tyrannical they become, unless they are ordered to."
Isn't that the truth. Nothing but sheeple.
I wish it wasn't true, RBS. Thanks.
But I fear revolution is the only hope.
this is a Little Season spiritual battle between the Libertines and their Lucifer who is close to be removed and cast in to the lake of fire each day Glory to Father we get closer...Please research what is called the Little Season...Jason Jack on youtube has an lot of biblical videos to back up what we know we are in the Little season peace...